Mike and Chris went at it today in one of the only non horse racing segments on the show while discussing the Red Sox in dugout brawl last night between Manny and Kevin Youkilis.
Before getting into what Mike revealed his sources told him were the reasons for the in dugout festivities, the arguement between Mike and Chris was classic because neither one of them was listening to the other.
This debate showed several things
1. Mike's source with the Red Sox is not a good one
2. Mad Dog's vibe on the makeup of the Red Sox is also not good. (maybe stick to the new york teams boys)
(this is an area that does drive me crazy, when Mike and Chris talk about a non new york sports team as if they know them as well.. news flash.. they don't)
1. Mike revealed that according to his source that the reason for the fight was that Youkilis was pissed that Manny didn't get out of the dugout soon enough to defend Coco Crisp (ala George Foster with the Mets many years ago). Mike stated this as fact and then went with it the entire segment. But ESPN.com reported something very different on their website.
A Red Sox source told ESPNdeportes.com that the cause of the dugout disagreement was Youkilis' temper following a poor at-bat.
"It all happened because Manny complained about Youkilis' habit of throwing bats, helmets and other objects in the dugout when he has a bad at-bat, something that has become a constant practice," the source said.
"Other players have told Youkilis in the past about the situation, which makes him look selfish and that he is more worried about each at-bat than about the team. If Boston is winning easily, there's no reason to throw objects all over the dugout because of a bad at-bat.
2. Russo's opinion was that the members of the Red Sox probably like Youkilis more than Manny because Manny is a goofball. Well, that doesn't appear to be the case, if you continue reading what was in the ESPN.com article.
"There was a meeting where the team let Youkilis know that many of his teammates were tired of his explosive reactions for each bad plate appearance. It became very bothersome … more so when the team is winning and it's in first place. There's not much room for individualistic attitudes."
A QUICK ASIDE.. and maybe this is me reaching, but i did feel that Russo was leaning towards the white players being the leaders of the team rather than Manny. In his examples he kept saying that players like Dustin Pedroia or Mike Lowell would be behind Youkilis more than Manny. Why would that be Chris?
A very odd heated arguement. When it was over and right before commercial i wondered what happens between Mike and Chris after those moments. Is there any residual ill feelings? Is it just for show? Who knows... I know one thing, i will be very excited when the Belmont is over.
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9 comments:
Lt., if you had been paying attention to Chris over the years, you obviously would have known that Latinos can't be leaders. Beltran, Delgado can't stand the pressure of performing and leading in New York. Chris has been very consistent with this.
Oh God yeah. Russo ALWAYS borders on getting his ass kicked off FAN. Just review their stance on Jason Taylor. Not knowing his father was a officer of the law is NO FRIGGEN EXCUSE. The info was out there, plenty of listeners knew it, why couldn't they?
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY AND DO NOT COME PREPARED. AT SEVEN FIGURES. UNBELIEVABLE.
Oh, and didn't manny ever hear about "Youk being Youk"??
A QUICK ASIDE.. and maybe this is me reaching, but i did feel that Russo was leaning towards the white players being the leaders of the team rather than Manny. In his examples he kept saying that players like Dustin Pedroia or Mike Lowell would be behind Youkilis more than Manny. Why would that be Chris?
God, SW. Thats classic Chris Russo. That mentally challenged SOB ALWAYS says crap like that. You aren't reaching at all. I cringe when I hear it, but I am also happy because I KNOW he will loose his job over that kind of crap one day. Its inevitable.
And his wife will suddenly find that their marriage is "not allowing her to grow as an individual".
the funny thing is that if you called him on it, he would say that race doesn't play an issue. Russo also is out of his mind if he thinks that Ortiz is better than Manny.
I think you're right, Gabagool, that at any time, he is capable of saying something to get his ass booted off the air. He can barely contain his racism and elitism; the Taylor situation is a perfect example. A while back when he was ranting about how the Mets should absolutely NOT name their new stadium after Jackie Robinson, I was glued to the radio, thinking that his next word could be the last one he ever says on the air.
But the point you are all missing is that they were WRONG about the story, or that at least ESPN has presented a different side of the story. But will they ever revisit and admit that they were wrong? Hmm, me thinks no.
But the point you are all missing is that they were WRONG about the story, or that at least ESPN has presented a different side of the story. But will they ever revisit and admit that they were wrong? Hmm, me thinks no.
You're right, FTLT; you also know what the chances are of Mike admitting he's wrong. The guys on Baseball Tonight were speculating that Manny being slow to leave the dugout was the reason, though, so if it comes up again he has somebody to blame. Of course, Mike was probably watching basketball when they said it, and he had only 14 or 15 hours to get the real story.
Not that he would have done any further preparation anyway, but he was on his way to the track and probably just didn't give a crap about anything else.
Can anyone explain exactly how to start a blog on this site? I created an account, but couldn't get any further than that. All I could get was a title. Many thanks.
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